meddling future mother in-law is BACK :(
by starry on 03/09 @ 2:52pmMy fiance and I just got engaged recently. We had wanted to get engaged 6 months ago, but decided to wait, since his family was convinced he wasn’t ready yet…his mother was extremely meddlesome at the time…we put up for it for several months..we even had a confrontation about it (she forced me into her house and made me talk to her and her husband about marriage).We even ended up breaking up for a little while. We got back together and even secretly dated again until we knew she knew we were dating again…and stopped hiding it. Since we dropped the idea of marriage for a long time, the meddling stopped, however I avoided her house as much as possible. I am sure she could tell I felt uncomfortable around her. She is extremely controling, manipulative, domineering, opinionated, pushy, and almost seems like she has some sort of personality disorder. I am 4 years older, 29……and my fiance is only 25 right now. I know that is younger, but the age doesn’t really matter to us.
Anyways, over time we have realized that we definitely want to spend our lives together. And he feels ready now…so we got engaged almost a month ago now(on Valentine’s day) We were originally planning on a long engagement (a year and a half or so)…we aren’t really in a rush and didn’t want to think about things/plan for a wedding yet. A couple of weeks before we got engaged, his mother even changed her tune and sent an “approving” email to my boyfriend, saying she was wondering if we were still moving towards marriage and how she hoped we worked things out, that they love me, that she tries to make me comfortable, that she wants a good relationship with me, etc.(I’m not sure how she could sense he was thinking about it right then) His mother was also being really nice to me….
Since his mother was so meddlesome previously, we had originally planned not to tell his parents (and mine to be fair) that we were engaged until we set the date, and started Catholic marriage classes, etc. We didn’t want to tell them because we knew they would react negatively and my fiance was even worried it would turn into a “bullyfest.” Well unfortunately, my fiance accidentally told his mother he proposed to me when he was waking up from a surgery and was loopy from the anesthetics! He also forgot to tell me that he even told her, since he was so loopy from the painkillers… I did feel it wasn’t the appropriate time to tell them amidst his surgery. Well, I wasn’t wearing the ring at the hospital since we hadn’t mutually agreed to announce it to our families yet. Well, then she later asks her son, “why are you guys trying to hide it?” So ever since then, I have worn the ring and don’t take it off.
Since his family already knew, we had planned on saying something to his parents, officially. I even wrote it down and practiced it…..something short about how we just got engaged, how it wasn’t appropriate to tell them during his surgery, that i just want to make their son happy, that we’re going to have a long engagement, etc…. However, he’s still been on pain medication and stranded at his parents’ house, etc…we’ve been too nervous to talk to them about it…worried about their reaction…we had planned on telling his whole family at the same time over dinner to prevent a “bullyfest”. We’re so nervous about it and decided that we would talk to them when he’s feeling better(since he is recovering right now)
They both have seen the ring (I’ve seen them look at my hand…and it’s kinda hard to miss my diamond). They haven’t said a WORD to us about it. My fiance just said, “they’re waiting for us to say something officially to them about it.” He said, don’t worry they are supportive and accepting of it. I felt very comfortable in their home(i go there often now due to his recovery from surgery) for awhile, but just in the past couple days I started feeling nervous going over there again. Well then I said to my fiance, “don’t you think it’s weird they haven’t said a word to us?…usually parent’s congratulate you” He still insisted he thought they would be accepting. And like I said, she’s been really nice to me lately. He said that he tried to break the ice to her a few days before and said, have you seen her diamond yet, and she said no i haven’t. (I thought she was pretending to not have noticed it, while he interpreted it as she wanted to see the ring upclose)
Well, then just last night we got a surprise!! He was checking his email and I was sitting next to him (since he’s recovering I sit next to him), he opened an email from his mom. We both could sense it was her meddling…I could feel it. All we did was read 3 or 4 sentences in different spots out of a 5 paragraph email. Before I or he could read anymore, my boyfriend said he was deleting it and emptied the trash. It was going on and on about how young my boyfriend is, too young for a “serious relationship”, at least the kind that I want or expect…going on about how she got married at age 20 and was just figuring out her place in the world, and implying that he’s just figuring out his place in the world and that he’s a late bloomer, etc. She even in the email wouldn’t acknowledge/use the words of engagement/marriage…just “serious relationship” as if in denial. I was not expecting her to get completely meddlesome like this again, I’m not sure why, but probably because she’s been so nice and welcoming to me lately…I know she’s entitled to her opinion, but to us this is her beginning to meddle again(she was over the line months ago!). I’m a sensitive and shy person, and of course this made me cry a lot:( He said he wanted to say something to her because now that we’re engaged she needs to back off!
Well, after I left his house he did confront her(big step for him)! He called her twofaced(which is what I said she was…since she’s so nice to me and sends an approving email, then swings the other way, etc). And told her he didn’t appreciate her emailing him about that, and how she had upset me, etc. I’m not sure what else he said…he used a firm voice. He said his mom got really mad back and was mad he let me see the email. He said to his mom, well I dont keep secrets from her! She then started going off on how he’s a failure of a first born child! (totally not true!…she tries to pull down his self-esteem) I heard that today she said she didn’t want to make me cry, but that she and her husband didn’t see anything offensive in that email. (Well, all we did was read 3 or 4 sentences and could tell where it was headed and how it was meddling) We decided if she tries to talk to him about us, that he should try to drop the subject by saying “it’s not up for discussion” to draw the line.
So I think we got so shaken up by her meddling again(which is what we were originally afraid of happening as a reaction) that we are thinking of shortening our engagement now. We were thinking a year and a half from now…but we aren’t too sure we can handle a year and a half of her meddling/trying to convince him not to marry. We are thinking of getting married within 9 to 12 months from now(winter or spring, as opposed to summer). Now we really don’t want to discuss it or any details with them. We want to find our church(already have a couple in mind), set a date, and begin our marriage classes after he’s recovered from his surgery. We want to do all that before we do anymore “discussing” with his family. (In the past, his mother bought him a Gameover t-shirt, his brother told him to breakup with me everyday for 3 months after his mother convinced him to “talk sense into his brother”, they suggested we elope, she tried to send him out of the country, scare him about kids, scare him and make up about how I just want a baby so badly I would leave him after I have a kid, and they go on and on about how you shouldnt get married til you’re in your 40s!) I was going to tell my family the next time I go home that we’re engaged now, but we’ve decided that it would be better to tell them together when my boyfriend is feeling better (from his surgery). It’s my boyfriend/fiance’s idea to shorten the engagement, due to his meddling mother! I think I want to do that!
I’m writing this somewhat to vent, as I have no one really to talk to about this. However, I really don’t know what to do. Should we bring it up to his family? Should we continue to avoid until we set a date and everything? Just so unsure at the moment. Luckily, he will be out of his parents house again in a couple weeks, once he’s recovered. After this email incident I didn’t want to go back to their house, but I have to if I want to see him! And he wants to see me often due to his recovery (he’s not working or anything)….we’ve grown really close in these past couple of weeks after his surgery since we see eachother so often.
Well thanks for listening.




12 Responses to “meddling future mother in-law is BACK :(”
He is 25, he is legal! No matter how much mommy wants to keep him “her little boy”, he is waaaay over the age of consent.
Time your intended shut his family down on all the crap….either they STOP the opinions or he stops coming around.
What kind of bizarre woman e-mails her son a long, meddling tome while he’s staying under the same roof? (I’ve noticed that when people use e-mail in these circumstances, it’s so they can distance themselves from what they’ve written later on – as in “oh, that’s not what I meant!” or “you misinterpreted what I wrote.”)
Maybe she still thinks of him as a kid because when he needs help (as in, after the surgery), he comes home to her instead of staying with you. Perhaps she interprets that as his immaturity or a lack of bond between you two. Maybe you guys are waiting to live together (and therefore you don’t feel comfortable staying together while he’s recovering), and that’s obviously fine. I’m just wondering what gives his parents this impression that he’s too young. Luckily, it’s not their call!
Regardless of why she’s doing this, obviously your fiance he capable of manning up and dealing with her. I think your plan to get married and keep his parents out of the planning process is really smart. Good luck to you guys! Sounds like you’re both on the same page.
Uh, I don’t mean to be totally rude, but you sound pretty immature in this posting. You’re 29?? Why are you so held up on your parents opinions, or his parents opinions? Either he and you are deciding what do with your lives (get married), or you are going to let your parents dictate what you do. Make a choice and live with it. Quit being so babyish and acting so afraid of parents. You’re almost 30! Heck, just elope and tell everyone what you did, if you want to!
They don’t want us to repeat their mistakes, which we aren’t. They had several kids at a young age, never finished college, and are completely in major major debt! Plus, I must say the mom has a personality disorder(I am not kidding!) They also wanted him to go to law school…Which he doesn’t want to.(he thinks they want him to go so he can be their “cash register”).they used to try to take his money whenever they can, but now he ignores their requests.
We’re not eloping because we want to include our families and a few close friends/relatives, and because we want a Catholic wedding……
You’re right, we don’t stay/live together…..we really don’t want to live together before marriage, his parents don’t approve of that, and we decided we would rather not. I’d rather it be exciting when we move in together. However, I have been there almost everyday for him caring for him often after his surgery.
I am not immature by any means….I have a stable career and am one of the top people at my work(not going to say what I do, because I don’t want to totally give my identity away on this site). I am very independent, smart, and sweet.
Mrs. Mead, sounds like you are a bit immature and a rude person yourself! What are you even doing on this site? Sounds like you aren’t on here to give people advice…….
Get used to the fact that MIL has it in for you. If she’s even enlisting BF’s brother to try to convince him to break up with you, then you’ve got a wedding crasher on your hands.
BF’s still living under the same roof as his parents, which really puts him on the forefront of a battleground. She’s going to continue to try and convince him to break off the engagement, and living in the same house, gives MIL a little more leverage.
Please don’t get defensive, but wow, I really hope that BF has a spine and stands up to his mom for you. He has really got his work cut out for him living in the same house as them. I willl tell you that this should be your ultimate test. If BF doesn’t stand his ground to his mom, then that’s your indicator to run. If he has the ability to shut her up, assist in planning your wedding, all the while standing at your side while under their roof and putting up with their meddling, then you’ve got a great man worth keeping.
Don’t let MIL in on the plans, and make sure you plan your wedding exactly how you want it. If BF can stand up to his mom, and the two of you go ahead, then you’ll do it without regrets. Don’t bend, don’t compromise, and don’t ever expect her to like you, it’s nothing personal, she’s just a control freak. So anything she says, she’ll say with malice just to try and keep sonny boy at home as long as possible.
Good luck.
You have a good plan and BF seems to be on his way to emancipation.
“Its not up for discussion” is a perfect response to her future attempts at involving herself in her son’s marriage. If you both (BF especially) maintains this boundary every time she attempts to cross it, moving the wedding up will not be necessary just to avoid more of her harping.
Get married when and how YOU BOTH want to, it only happens once.
Don’t you get too hurt by what this cow moos abut. When a mother makes active efforts to pull down her child’s self esteem, as you said she tries to do, and calls her own son “a failure of a first born child!” then know no subject if off limits. MIL uses approval and disapproval of her son’s fiance as just another way to play with his head. Doesn’t matter who YOU are, or what you do or don’t do, when MIL’s trying to screw up her son’s sense of security , you are just one way she can think of to do it (like his education, career, finances). What you experience as meanness to you, is another way of MIL being mean to her son.
I’m sorry if you feel that my advice to you is immature or rude. If you wish to continue behaving like a child who needs parental approval, then keep going down this path! You will suceed in continuing to be treated like the child you are by his parents and your own.
Other commenters also say the same thing as me, though less bluntly, so you can pick and choose the answers you like if that’s what you want to do to be easy on yourself instead of being realistic.
If you are truly Catholic, then you need to honor your parents and his, and quit protesting their advice. Why would you expect any different? This is a core Catholic teaching.
I find it amazing that you would consider marrying some man that you say you’re only now “growing closer to” due to his surgery. You also claim you can’t live together because, again, HIS parents “disapprove” so you also then agree. Who cares? You’re an adult, make your own choices.
How could you be prepared for marriage, you can’t even make decisions on your own for yourself? That is why I indicated you sound immature at age 29. If you were truly independent as you claim, you would not be having these issues, nor would you be in the situation you’re in now.
I’m sorry if the truth hurts you. My intent was to help you buck up and stand up for yourself! But if you can’t face reality, then you’re probably stuck as you are in this situation.
I wish you the best of luck! I hope your man grows up and tells his parents he can live his own life. I hope you grow up too and take control of your own life before you’re 30.
Best wishes to your future, everyone deserves to be happy!!!
thanks for the replies:) I just needed to vent…
Luckily my fiance only will be staying/living with them temporarily until his leg get a little better(only two more weeks I hope!)…He lives with roommates somewhere, and this summer we are hoping he will get a studio…
Yeah she used to say it was “because he is her first born”…etc….
I am glad he is getting a little better at standing up…our problem is that both of us(fiance and myself) are very similar and shy, sensitive, not confrontational at all….so we both have to practice strategic response/drawing boundaries etc….I think we are getting better:)
We are hoping to have our wedding possibly 9mths to a year from now instead of the year and a half we had originally counted on, because we know her meddling will not die.
I am a little sick knowing I have to go to her house and see her, in order to see my fiance right now! She is so two faced!
anyways thanks again for the comments:) I appreciated them:)
I’m not Catholic, my fiance is Catholic……..
Just reading the first line, my advice is = you and your fiance need to get backbones. Neither of you are anywhere near ready for marriage. Until you can act like independent people with even an ounce of self-respect, you should both take some time out from the relationship. He needs to stand up to his mummy, and tell her to butt the hell out of your lives, and you need to realise that you deserve a whoooole lot more respect, and your fiance needs to grow up for the both of you.
I dont think you are immature at all. I think that you just move in together, and have as long of an engagement as is comfortable for you. But you definately need to get some distance between you and mother in law. Wouldnt it be bliss if when we decided to marry, the custom was that our parents went on hiadous for three years, and came back around when we were totally comfortable and set in our ways? Do yourself a favor, and dont compramise your plans for her, like a shorter engagement. 1-she will never stop trying to tell you how things should be, 2- if you start that now, you will be re-arangeing yourselves for the rest of your marriage/lives/children!
Thanks..we aren’t moving in together, we actually did at one point, a long time ago, and his parents are very against that. Plus I learned that I would rather wait for that for marriage….but we plan on spending a lot of time at each other places, etc. However, we will move in together before marriage if the only other choice is him living with his parents….. We want to get married earlier than we had originally planned, but it is by no means a “short” engagement. We want to get married 9 to 13 months from now(it has to be on one of my vacations, which I get 4 times a yr), as opposed to a year and a half….so the winter or spring break, as opposed to summer break. (I am a teacher)
My fiance and I have already found the church we want to get married at, so we are very excited:) We are pretty much avoiding his parents’ house right now….he is finally staying back at his apartment now(away from them) and with me a few days a week. We’ve also decided it is best to keep his family/parents in the dark about our engagement. We are not going to share any details nor discuss it with them for a long while. We don’t even want them to know which church it is, until they get their invitation. Eventually we will say something like, “We are getting married, and we would like it if you were apart of that….”
We are feeling more confident now…..he is better at standing up now and saying it is his life or dropping the subject etc…. He admits he still has to get over wanting parent approval. No one can wrap their mind around the fact that we have such a meddling mother in-law that we can’t even discuss our plans with them….but it is the smart thing to do. We had originally planned to do that, but he had accidentally told his mother we were engaged when he wokeup from surgery…..so now we are back to plan A…….except they even know we are engaged……
well thanks again
I know I am not immature at all…….I am one of the top teachers in my school district and have a masters degree….and am a very intelligent, sweet person.